Poll: What Support do you want to see next?

17 vote(s) since February 4, 2012 11:11 PM

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 Topic: Nestec's Supports :: Tadashi and Nori

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  Posted on February 4, 2012 11:11 PM
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Nestec, Saint

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(**This concept was inspired by the Fire Emblem series**)

Introducing a new concept to the world of War of Ninja: Supports. If you’ve played the Fire Emblem games, you already know how these work. If not, please read the guide below. :teeth

WHAT ARE SUPPORTS?

A Support is a modification to a pair of characters that is triggered by placing them on a team together. Supports are built via completing missions, and they alter parts of a character’s skillset. Backed by a strong bond developed between the two characters, Supports strengthen both allies and help them to address weaknesses.

HOW DO THEY WORK?

You can purchase a Support package in the Market for a number of tokens. After purchasing a particular Support, you will have access to its missions. Each Support package comes with 3 missions, as well as dialogue to go with each mission. The dialogue typically displays interaction and the development of a relationship between the two characters involved in the Support.

After completing the final mission, the Support is completed and becomes useable in battle.

To activate a Support, simply form a team including the two characters, and you will be given the option to trigger their Support before the match begins. **Only one Support per team can be triggered in a battle.

Supported characters have new names and an altered skillset. The opponent is unable to see whether or not any of your characters are using a Support.

WHY ARE THEY USEFUL?

Supports bring synergy to character combos that would otherwise be deemed unviable or useless. They allow players to combine the strengths of two characters to amplify the depth of strategy in the game.

They incentivize more unique team compositions by encouraging players to team up pairs of characters for newly-discovered strategies.

Furthermore, support missions provide an additional layer of story to the game, allowing you to learn more about a character’s backstory and personality through his or her interactions with other characters.

THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN CREATING A SUPPORT

Don’t create Supports out of characters that already work well together. This is counter-intuitive. If the point of Supports is to create synergy where there was none, it would be incredibly silly to make a Jyouzu/Yukigaaru support, since the two are already an effective duo. Instead, focus on pairs of characters that you don’t generally see in teams together, because maybe their energies clash or their play styles conflict.

When designing a Supported character’s skillset, be smart about balance decisions, and consider how these combos would affect the rest of the game.

When writing dialogue for the Support missions, RESEARCH THE CHARACTERS. Do whatever you need to do to make sure no one is acting out-of-character, because that is not entertaining to read, and it will upset Nori. Also, read up on the concepts and storyline of War of Ninja so that nothing is extremely contradictory.

Be reasonable about the mission requirements. This is self-explanatory.

Not to put restrictions on your creativity, but it wouldn’t make sense for boss characters to be available for Supports, since in terms of the storyline, they aren’t exactly part of the main army. However, if you absolutely WANT to, go ahead.

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So without further ado, I will present to you my first Support -- as soon as its finished.
Feel free to leave comments and suggestions, and write/design your own Supports if you would like to.


  Posted on February 4, 2012 11:11 PM
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Nestec, Saint

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“To Be a Hunter”

127.jpg large.jpg

Cost: 40 tokens
Mission Req.: “King of Kings”
Quote:

Mission 1

+ Win 5 battles with Aoiro Tadashi
+ Win 5 battles with Shishi Nori

*Enter Aoiro Tadashi and Shishi Nori

127.jpg: Hey there.
large.jpg: Oh, good evening, Tadashi. Is there something you want?
127.jpg: Yes. I’ve noticed that you tend to eat by yourself when we all gather for dinner, so I just wanted to invite you to come join us next time.
large.jpg: …
127.jpg: …I’m just concerned that you’re not getting along with the rest of the group. But if you wish to continue eating alone, I guess that remains your decision.
large.jpg: I do not eat alone. My companion Ookami keeps me company.
127.jpg: Oh, your wolf…got it. Well, if the two of you ever want to join the rest of us, you are welcome to.
large.jpg: I am sorry, but I must refuse. Ookami and I strongly oppose the eating habits of other humans.
127.jpg: W-what do you mean?
large.jpg: I am a vegetarian. I refuse to eat anything that was once alive.
127.jpg: …Oh. Right.
large.jpg: I don’t expect you to understand, being a hunter and all.
127.jpg: No, no, I understand. I wouldn’t want to feed you something you care so much about.
large.jpg: So then it is you who retrieves the food for the army?
127.jpg: Yes…I am among the most skilled hunters in this group, thus everyone trusts me to go out and capture some fresh meat.
large.jpg: …
127.jpg: …I’m sorry, that was poor phrasing.
large.jpg: You are proud of what you do, aren’t you? Slaying innocent animals?
127.jpg: Nori, I didn’t mean to make it sound that way. I meant--
large.jpg: Please excuse me.
* Exit Shishi Nori
127.jpg: Damn…that didn’t go very well. Still, I can’t try to justify the things I do just because an ally looks down upon them. I apologize, Nori.

Mission 2

+ Win 3 battles in a row with Shishi Nori
+ Win 3 battles in a row with Aoiro Tadashi

*Enter Aoiro Tadashi
127.jpg: After that long battle, my comrades definitely deserve a hearty meal tonight. I need to find some nice-sized prey.
question%20mark.jpg: ~growl~
127.jpg: Theres…something resting behind the trees over there. It’s…it’s massive!
question%20mark.jpg: …
127.jpg: I can’t tell what it is…but it looks like it would make for a perfect feast. Alright, here comes dinner.
question%20mark.jpg: …
127.jpg: Ready…aim…and FIRE!
question%20mark.jpg: RROOOAAAGH
127.jpg: Nailed it. Alright, time to get a closer look at that thing…
question%20mark.jpg: Ookami? Was that you? Are you okay?
127.jpg: !!!
question%20mark.jpg: Ookami, I thought you were…oh, OOKAMI!!!!!
*Exit Aoiro Tadashi
*Enter Shishi Nori
large.jpg: Ookami…who could have done this you? I’m so sorry…~sniffle~
* Enter Chiyu Jinsei
large.jpg: Oh dear! What happened here?!
large.jpg: …I’m not sure. Ookami was attacked by someone.
15ho7mc.png: …ugh…
large.jpg: I need to heal you, immediately!
15ho7mc.png: …wretched humans.
large.jpg: What’s this? Looks like he took an arrow to the stomach.
large.jpg: An…arrow.
large.jpg: Looks like whoever did this had impressive skill with the bow.
*Exit Shishi Nori
large.jpg: Nori?

Mission 3

+ Win 5 battles with Shishi Nori and Aoiro Tadashi on a team together

*Enter Aoiro Tadashi and Shishi Nori
127.jpg: You wanted to speak with me?
large.jpg: Explain yourself. Immediately.
127.jpg: Excuse me?
large.jpg: Do not play dumb, or I will kill you right here.
127.jpg: Ehh…
large.jpg: SPEAK!
127.jpg: I’m sorry…I am truly sorry for what I’ve done.
large.jpg: …
127.jpg: I understand how important he is to you, and--
large.jpg: Then why did you do it?!?
127.jpg: It was an accident. I was hunting for dinner, and then I…I found him resting. I didn’t know it was Ookami, I really didn’t.
large.jpg: Hmmph.
127.jpg: Will he be okay?
large.jpg: So now you want to know if he is okay. Long after the deed has already been done. What if you had killed him?!
127.jpg: …
large.jpg: People like you…You are one of the main reasons why Ookami despises humans.
127.jpg: Please…forgive me, Nori.
large.jpg: Why should I? I refuse to continue to fight alongside a man who threatened the life of my companion.
127.jpg: I want to atone for my actions.
large.jpg: And how do you plan to do that?
127.jpg: I…I put down my bow as a hunter.
large.jpg: ?!
127.jpg: If you will refuse to forgive me, then I must take responsibility into my own hands. I will never again use my bow to slay an innocent soul.
large.jpg: Tadashi…I do not wish to change who you are.
127.jpg: You don’t have to change me…I will change myself.
large.jpg: …
127.jpg: I made a mistake, which could have truly hurt my allies. For that, I must atone.
large.jpg: Understood. I do not know if I can ever forgive you. But if you are willing to take responsibility for what you have done, then I would be happy to continue fighting alongside you.
127.jpg: Nori…
large.jpg: Say no more. You are definitely a foolish human. But I want to help you change that.
127.jpg: I would be happy to change…for Ookami’s sake. And for all of the animals I have killed.
large.jpg: Thank you.


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*For character modifications, I will only mention skills that are being changed. If a skill is not listed, that means it has not changed from the original character.

Sinned Tadashi

squad.png

HUNTER’S EYE

Tadashi increases damage dealt by Rain of Arrows and Nori’s Flash Fang to all enemies by 15 for the following 2 turns.

No cost
Cooldown: 0
Mental, Instant

MULTI SHOT

Tadashi deals 35 ranged damage to one enemy. This skill deals 5 additional damage for every Flash Fang charge on Tadashi. This skill removes all Flash Fang charges on Tadashi once activated.

1 green, 1 random
Cooldown: 0
Ranged, Instant

Unforgiving Nori

squad.png

ELUSIVE HUNTER

Requires Summon Ookami. Reduces melee and ranged damage dealt to Nori and Aoiro Tadashi by 15 for 1 turn and grants both Nori and Tadashi 1 Flash Fang charge.

No cost
Cooldown: 0
Tactic, Instant
  Posted on February 4, 2012 11:18 PM
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shadow111, The Demonic Warbringer

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I like the idea of the support so basically its creating a backstory for two complete different characters that would chakra clash or what not?My only thing is how would the support function in the game will the characters have to be on the same team?
*Finding inner peace should be done training soon.
  Posted on February 4, 2012 11:32 PM
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Nestec, Saint

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Yes, the characters would have to be on the same team.

As far as the mechanics go, I'm not sure if the programming codes of the game would allow something like this, but it's just an idea for now, I guess.
  Posted on February 4, 2012 11:38 PM
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perigirin, The Joyful Cutpurse of Ninja Arts

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I love it! Thanks for the idea. :)
  Posted on February 5, 2012 12:14 AM
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lordhyuga13, The Untouchable Swordsman of the Moon

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I think that it's a marvelous idea. I love the support function on Fire Emblem and would definitely like to have more back story with some of the WoN characters. Would your opponent be able to tell that you have supported characters, by the way?
"The heart of a fool is in his mouth, but the mouth of the wise man is in his heart."

Benjamin Franklin
  Posted on February 5, 2012 12:27 AM
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Manjji-Puppet, The Innocent Savior

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Spoiler

Just wanted to point out, that picture of Ookami was resized and formatted, and blurred at the edges by me. It's not a big deal, but if you use it some other time, it'd be nice to just have a quick mention or such.



@topic

I like the idea overall. I personally don't like how to story itself is written, nor the changes made to the characters though. Personally, I'd like something along these lines for the skill changes:

Tadashi:
Hunter's Eye
Tadashi uses his trained out to spot an enemy.
For 2 turns, Multi Shot will deal 15 more damage and ignore invulnerability. In addition, Shishi Nori's Flash Fang will ignore invulnerability.

cooldown: 2
cost: none

Nori:
Elusive Hunter
Nori does whatever... Not Really Sure.
Requires Summon Ookami. Ranged and Melee damage dealt to Nori is reduced by 15. Aoiro Tadashi's Rain of Arrows will deal 5 more damage to one random target next turn.

Final Note: Pretty Sure Ookami and Nori aren't vegetarians, so...

  Posted on February 5, 2012 1:08 AM
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Sand_Spirit, Elite

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Very interesting idea. I like the dialogue too.
  Posted on February 5, 2012 1:50 AM
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_Matt_, The Ambitious Rookie

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This is an awesome idea i'm all for it. Btw are you gonna post some more ideas when you come up w/ them?
  Posted on February 5, 2012 1:51 AM
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Nestec, Saint

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Manjji-Puppet wrote:

Spoiler

Just wanted to point out, that picture of Ookami was resized and formatted, and blurred at the edges by me. It's not a big deal, but if you use it some other time, it'd be nice to just have a quick mention or such.


Ahh, you're right, sorry bout that. I couldn't find a picture of Ookami anywhere else, lol.
Quote:

@topic

I like the idea overall. I personally don't like how to story itself is written, nor the changes made to the characters though. Personally, I'd like something along these lines for the skill changes:

Tadashi:
Hunter's Eye
Tadashi uses his trained out to spot an enemy.
For 2 turns, Multi Shot will deal 15 more damage and ignore invulnerability. In addition, Shishi Nori's Flash Fang will ignore invulnerability.

cooldown: 2
cost: none

Nori:
Elusive Hunter
Nori does whatever... Not Really Sure.
Requires Summon Ookami. Ranged and Melee damage dealt to Nori is reduced by 15. Aoiro Tadashi's Rain of Arrows will deal 5 more damage to one random target next turn.

Final Note: Pretty Sure Ookami and Nori aren't vegetarians, so...


Hmm, yeah I like the one about Flash Fang ignoring invulnerability, but the reason why I wanted to remove the whole bypass-invuln thing was because the Support gave Tadashi a bit of mercy in his battle style, what with quitting his hunting and all.

And about the vegetarianism: I know the eating habits of Nori's characters are never exactly mentioned, but in this case, I chose to simply add in that information myself, since it wouldn't conflict with anything that has happened in the actual story.
lordhyuga13 wrote:

Would your opponent be able to tell that you have supported characters, by the way?


For now, my answer to that is no. But if people feel that would be too unbalanced, I could change it.
_Matt_ wrote:

This is an awesome idea i'm all for it. Btw are you gonna post some more ideas when you come up w/ them?


Thanks. Yeah, I plan on making at least 3 Supports for every playable character in the game. And yes, lol, I realize that will take a long time; but it's something to do, I guess.

And as soon as I get the chance, I'm gonna edit the first post as a Poll, to take suggestions on which pair people want to see next.
  Posted on February 5, 2012 2:20 AM
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Demonkings, The Golden Demon of the Darkness

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Nice idea Nestec, do you mind me using your idea to make my own pairs with Shoji-beatrice(Shoji)?
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  Posted on February 5, 2012 2:23 AM
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Nestec, Saint

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Sure, by all means. I encourage others to make some too.

But one question, who the heck is Beatrice?

EDIT: nvm, i checked your sig
  Posted on February 5, 2012 4:40 AM
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Osh, The Twisted Child

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I don't see any potential benefits to implementing this system that would outweigh the balancing nightmare that would likely result.
  Posted on February 5, 2012 7:09 AM
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AmayaUncensored, The Twisted Crow of the Azure Dragon

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whats the connection between saigai and niwa? or am i looking too far into this? thats what i went for at least....

anyway i like the whole concept,and i cant wait to see ignition aoe stunning.(that better happen dude)

  Posted on February 5, 2012 7:24 AM
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Nestec, Saint

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Osh wrote:

I don't see any potential benefits to implementing this system that would outweigh the balancing nightmare that would likely result.


It's mainly about the entertainment and pleasure of more backstory/character development, rather than actual gameplay.
AmayaUncensored wrote:

whats the connection between saigai and niwa? or am i looking too far into this? thats what i went for at least....

anyway i like the whole concept,and i cant wait to see ignition aoe stunning.(that better happen dude)


Nah, there aren't any pre-established relationships between characters in Supports. I mean, there can be, but not in the ones I'm doing.

Lol Ignition-stun would be so devastating.