Topic: Suggestion: Clan Diplomacy

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  Posted on March 2, 2011 9:59 AM
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Please read all before posting. Long suggestion but I want honest comments and additional suggestions. I spent much time thinking and designing so I hope it was worth the effort. :teeth

Note: All clan names used were thought of by be and if the clan actually does exist then this shows no real relationship between it and Geki Chronos, as they are only examples :amused

So yeah I had an idea for the clans, a clan diplomacy system :amazed There have always been alliances, enemies, and wars as long as the arena games existed, but no actual on site system for it. Of course it would require much time by the admins but everything besides achievements have been thought out and designed so just their coding magic is needed and would be a very cool update. I haven't thought about any achievements but of course they can be worked into this.

You may comment, suggest additional things or changes, and ask any question that you have about this. I tried to include much of its workings but some things might have been missed or are not understood by all.

There are 6 parts. Clan Negotiation, Trusted Allies, Hostile Relations, Current Wars, Wars Won, and Wars Lost.
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Clan Negotiation

-A clan can Negotiate with up to 5 clans at once.
-Both clans don't need to negotiate at the same time.
-During a single negotiation, the battle penalty is reduced by half.
-During a double negotiation, the battle penalty is removed.
-During a single negotiation, trust loss is reduced by half.
-During a double negotiation, trust loss is removed.
-During a single negotiation, trust is increased by 20 per day.
-During a double negotiation, trust is increased by 50 per day.
-Once trust reaches 500, the 2 clans become Trusted Allies.
-When trust is above 0 and below 500, the clans can do a neutral agreement to removed all relations.
-A clan can negotiate with any current trusted clan anytime, but negotiations with a neutral clan requires a confirmation by a leader of both clans.

Battle Penalty: When trust is started there are penalties. When members battle who are from trusted clans, trust is reduced by 2.(Could be changed)
Trust Loss: Trust is reduced by 10 everyday.(Could be changed)
Single Negotiation: When one clan is negotiating with another, but that clan isn't negotiating back.
Double Negotiation: When 2 clans are negotiating at the same time.
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Trusted Allies

Pretty simple for this one. These are your trusted allies. A newly trusted clan will only become allies at 500 trust, but will remain as allies unless the alliance is annulled or the trust reaches 0. An annulment can be done by each clan at any time and requires no confirmation by the other clan. An annulment will result in -500 trust and the clans will become enemies.
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Hostile Relations

Exactly what it says. When trust between clan gos below 1 then the trust automatically is reduced to -250 and the clans become enemies. Once any war ends the trust between the 2 clans is reduced by the amount of wins that won the war. If no trust is started when clans start a war then they instantly become enemies. To regain trust, the clans must negotiate until they are allies again or confirm a neutral agreement once above 0. If no negotiations take place then the battle penalty and trust loss will further reduce it.
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Current Wars

These are all current wars. You can war with up to 3 clans at once. It is not a 4 way war, but individual wars with each of them. A declaration of war is sent from a leader to another clans leader, they can accept or deny. On the war declaration is the set amount of wins needed, anywhere from 50-1000. A war is won when one clan reaches the set wins. War wins and losses count when a member of a clan (trial-leader) battles any of the warring clans members (trial-leader) in any type of battle.

A war limit of 1-4 weeks must be set.

Issues: A clan is ahead by 5 wins and doesn't battle so they will win when time runs out.
Fix: During a war if one clan doesn't play at least 75% of the other clans total wins(outside pb) in the past 24 hours, then the clan gets a loss every hour for each of its members until their activity is brought up.

In more detail

Clan A has won 200 battles (not pb) in the past 24 hours. Clan B must battle at least 150 times (not pb) or the low activity penalty will start.

More issues might come up, but I will try to solve them.
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Wars Won

This shows all the clans you have beaten in a war, when the war ended, and the end ratio of the war.
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Wars Lost

This shows all the clans that have defeated you in a war, when the war ended, and the end ratio of the war.
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Finally done! :amazed It is not NEEDED just like all suggestions aren't so don't say that please. This would require much of the admins time but like I said at the top, this system as been done and controlled by the clan members themselves so things like this have always been an interest to most clans.



  Posted on March 2, 2011 11:20 AM
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rurudo66, Hunter of Hanto

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You always do have the best ideas, Tsu. It reminds me of the game Tribal Wars, where you could have clans and ally with other clans and go to war with them as well. It would be a great idea and would make joining a clan that much more interesting and fun.
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  Posted on March 2, 2011 11:52 AM
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firestar1247, The Radiant Dreamer

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i like this idea a lot. It sounds very interesting, and would make being in a clan even more fun then it already is. :amused
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  Posted on March 2, 2011 12:00 PM
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Great...

But about the wars... A new ladder system for the wars??
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  Posted on March 2, 2011 12:24 PM
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Very good idea!

It should be made in the real WoN, it is just the best idea ever :D
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  Posted on March 2, 2011 12:26 PM
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TSU!! I <3 You! From Where Do You Get These F**cked Up Ideas? ( Jus Kiddin )......You Did All That Shit Too!...Amazing!! It's An Amazing Idea :cool

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  Posted on March 2, 2011 4:54 PM
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rurudo66 wrote:

You always do have the best ideas, Tsu. It reminds me of the game Tribal Wars, where you could have clans and ally with other clans and go to war with them as well. It would be a great idea and would make joining a clan that much more interesting and fun.

:laugh Thanks, I never played that though.
KRiHT wrote:

Great...

But about the wars... A new ladder system for the wars??

I thought about possible ladders but the only problem is that you are able to decide the amount of wins need to win the war and the lowest was 50. I did this to make short wars, long wars, and make wars not take forever if it was between small clans. All clans would just do the 50 wins and another thing is that you get to pick your opponents and win in pb so having a ladder probably wouldn't work out, but idk.
firestar1247 wrote:

i like this idea a lot. It sounds very interesting, and would make being in a clan even more fun then it already is. :amused

Agreed :amused Much more fun.
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TSU!! I <3 You! From Where Do You Get These F**cked Up Ideas? ( Jus Kiddin )......You Did All That Shit Too!...Amazing!! It's An Amazing Idea :cool

P.S : I Think I Was the One Who Gave This Idea To You? :push



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:laugh Thanks :teeth

  Posted on March 2, 2011 5:06 PM
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Interesting idea. But then a whole new ladder system would need to be made. But hey it might be hard but the admins want to make the game better anyway. As for the suggestion, it would liven the clan system up a lot. More clan fun = more activity almost everywhere.

I agree with this fully. But i don't understand the negotiation that much. But ill try figure it out ^-^
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  Posted on March 2, 2011 5:10 PM
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Encore wrote:

Interesting idea. But then a whole new ladder system would need to be made. But hey it might be hard but the admins want to make the game better anyway. As for the suggestion, it would liven the clan system up a lot. More clan fun = more activity almost everywhere.

I agree with this fully. But i don't understand the negotiation that much. But ill try figure it out ^-^

Yeah the ladder would need some thought behind it. Maybe instead of a ladder for the amount of wars you won it could just be an overall ratio. This would prevent clans from just winning a bunch of 50 win wars.

The negotiations might be a little confusing, and just thinking of that half of the system took half my time :laugh

Is there a specific part you don't understand? Ask and I will try to clear things up :amused
  Posted on March 2, 2011 5:58 PM
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Encore wrote:

Interesting idea. But then a whole new ladder system would need to be made. But hey it might be hard but the admins want to make the game better anyway. As for the suggestion, it would liven the clan system up a lot. More clan fun = more activity almost everywhere.

I agree with this fully. But i don't understand the negotiation that much. But ill try figure it out ^-^


I have to agree, things could be explained better, but overall this would be a great idea. Personally, I rarely play WoN anymore because it has gotten a bit dull, but this would give me just one more reason to play while we wait for the new regions.
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  Posted on March 2, 2011 6:02 PM
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nuckleheadninja wrote:

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I have to agree, things could be explained better, but overall this would be a great idea. Personally, I rarely play WoN anymore because it has gotten a bit dull, but this would give me just one more reason to play while we wait for the new regions.


I tried to explain as much as a could but knew it wouldn't be enough. It might be hard to understand at first but questions may be asked and I will answer and add it it to the main post.

What questions do you have?
  Posted on March 2, 2011 6:33 PM
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One heck of a idea!I see no reason not to add it.:nuts
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  Posted on March 2, 2011 6:43 PM
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Amazing Idea!
It would be awesome to see this come to life :amused
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  Posted on March 2, 2011 8:05 PM
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I find it amusing that I was about to post the same thing yesterday, but I didn't manage to come online. o.o I was based more on the alliance-system, however I had the same concept. xD Ahhh, how I love telepathy.

Nice idea. You have my vote.
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  Posted on March 2, 2011 8:17 PM
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I suppose this idea will help manage clans more easily.Which will be the rise in the creation of many other clans(making others wanting to create/join clans).Once again great idea.:embarrassed
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