Topic: Tokens disscussion

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  Posted on April 16, 2011 3:21 PM
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Bankai_San, The Respected Veteran of the BETA

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There are many topics with suggestions for the tokens, but this one is a complain about them and a rework idea.

Till now, the 2 ways to earn tokens are completing missions and Laddering.

Till now, the costs at the Market are 400 t. for a Village and 150 t. for a character.

But, it isn't all that easy to earn them.

I had the 2 current Regions completed when the Hebi as released, and I had 275 tokens I belive. I bought the Hebi with 20% less tokens on it's cost, but in fact, I'd have to pay 400 t. instead of 320 for it. So, I'd be supposed to earn 125 tokens more. "Uh, not that all". Rly? How many wins do u need to earn that amount? Let's see: 12 wins at each Arena = 20 tokens (in a day). 24 wins (in both) = 40 (the maximum a day).

So, if I played all days until get all that tokens, I'd have to do that in at least 6 days and win at least 75 battles, more or less. That's not few.

Let's go to Hai: completing all Hebi missions, u earn 40 tokens. More 110 to buy Hai. That's at least 5 days, 66 wins, more or less.

And about the missions? About 25 t. for Main Bosses (2, let's remember), 10 for normal Bosses, and 2~5 for normal missions.

And also, to help buying the Hebi, there's the 2 Regions' tokens. To help buying Hai, there the Hebi's tokens. And then? If they are going to add more things on the market frequently, how will we be able to buy all that? And also, don't forget that are ppl (as me) that don't like and are bad at playing Ladder.


So, what's the point of this?

The point is that the Tokens have to be easier to be earned, or with always more things on the Market and few Tokens earned with each battle, it'll start getting hardest and ahrdest to buy the things on the Market.

For this, I have 3 options of suggestions:
1 - Make the things on the Market cheaper;
2 - Increase the tokens earned with the battles/missions;
3 - Make the tokens easier to be earned, as making them be earned also by things like completing Achievments, or making events or extra misions to gain them, anything.

Discuss it!

Kabuto__Yakushi wrote:

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I hope the same
I mean, the avarage player doesnt get 40 tokens a day
and once the new region is out, one has even less time to get tokens, because one also wants to do the missions....
it is just too hard overall, especially as it is so time consumptive... I mean, I play quite a bit and win in most cases, but it still takes ages

s7ank0 wrote:

YES ! they're too hard to earn something has to be done...its just too much playing not to mention that you have to win 24 times , not to battle 24 times some people lose twice before they win once... u can do the counting




  Posted on April 16, 2011 3:26 PM
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sammysowners, The Worthy Wolf of the Ancestors

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Kinda agree they should have a quest thing with random missions
  Posted on April 16, 2011 3:29 PM
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Low, The Crystal Warbringer

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I think the creators have alternate plans for us. Meaning these discussions are pointless.

Edit: Im totally cool with the idea. I do agree that earning the tokens isnt exactly your "child's play",
  Posted on April 16, 2011 3:30 PM
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Low wrote:

I think the creators have alternate plans for us. Meaning these discussions are pointless.

I really hope this is the case, if not, Bankai_San's ideas would be cool
  Posted on April 16, 2011 3:31 PM
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Low, The Crystal Warbringer

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Psychosis wrote:

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I really hope this is the case, if not, Bankai_San's ideas would be cool


Agreed.

Seriously, I hope I don't get warned for this. e.e;
  Posted on April 16, 2011 6:39 PM
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Bankai_San, The Respected Veteran of the BETA

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Thx all, and don't worry, this is a democratic forum, I don't think we'll get warned :oh.
  Posted on April 16, 2011 6:45 PM
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YES ! they're too hard to earn something has to be done...its just too much playing not to mention that you have to win 24 times , not to battle 24 times some people lose twice before they win once... u can do the counting
  Posted on April 16, 2011 6:57 PM
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s7ank0 wrote:

YES ! they're too hard to earn something has to be done...its just too much playing not to mention that you have to win 24 times , not to battle 24 times some people lose twice before they win once... u can do the counting


True, that's why I wrote "at least".
  Posted on April 17, 2011 1:18 PM
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Kabuto__Yakushi, The Twisted Harvester of Death

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personally, I think the token system is great
but the token gains/prices are just.. off...

I mean, I cannot play everyday - most likely 4-5 days a weak

then, I win quite many battles, I have a very good ratio, but even I do lose, everyone loses
and then, most people have a ratio about 50/50....
so theoretically, to win 24 battles, they have to fight 48 battles - quite a heavy number, eh?

the problem is, there is still much more content to come... and it will take a year to unlock everything at some point - especially new players may be annoyed with that

I mean.. come on, you need 950 tokens to unlock everything out atm(counting the seishin village, even though it isn't out)

also, it was said: 7 bosses will be released as playable characters
assuming they all cost 150 like kozan hai(even though i guess kozan isshou or someone "mighty" may cost even more)
7 times 150 = 1050...
+ the two villages....
1850 tokens
and I get around 10-12 tokens a day(calculating in that I dont play everyday).....

I would take half a year to unlock everything then - around 160 days
and really, that wouldn't be fun anymore -I really like this game and am willing to work for the new characters, but I that's just too much IMO
if my achievements would at least gain me tokens
and/or the missions would gain a few more tokens(like, around 5-15 tokens for normal missions, 25-50 tokens for bosses or something like that)
and/or it would be easier to get the 40 tokens a day(for example, by increasing the spots where you can get 3 tokens to.. 4 or something, but decreasing the 2 and 1 token/s spots)
and/or gaining tokens through quick battles(I mean, witht he current match-up system, it wouldnt even make much of a difference)
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  Posted on April 17, 2011 8:41 PM
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Bankai_San, The Respected Veteran of the BETA

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Kabuto__Yakushi wrote:

personally, I think the token system is great
but the token gains/prices are just.. off...

I mean, I cannot play everyday - most likely 4-5 days a weak

then, I win quite many battles, I have a very good ratio, but even I do lose, everyone loses
and then, most people have a ratio about 50/50....
so theoretically, to win 24 battles, they have to fight 48 battles - quite a heavy number, eh?

the problem is, there is still much more content to come... and it will take a year to unlock everything at some point - especially new players may be annoyed with that

I mean.. come on, you need 950 tokens to unlock everything out atm(counting the seishin village, even though it isn't out)

also, it was said: 7 bosses will be released as playable characters
assuming they all cost 150 like kozan hai(even though i guess kozan isshou or someone "mighty" may cost even more)
7 times 150 = 1050...
+ the two villages....
1850 tokens
and I get around 10-12 tokens a day(calculating in that I dont play everyday).....

I would take half a year to unlock everything then - around 160 days
and really, that wouldn't be fun anymore -I really like this game and am willing to work for the new characters, but I that's just too much IMO
if my achievements would at least gain me tokens
and/or the missions would gain a few more tokens(like, around 5-15 tokens for normal missions, 25-50 tokens for bosses or something like that)
and/or it would be easier to get the 40 tokens a day(for example, by increasing the spots where you can get 3 tokens to.. 4 or something, but decreasing the 2 and 1 token/s spots)
and/or gaining tokens through quick battles(I mean, witht he current match-up system, it wouldnt even make much of a difference)


Agree totally with u, but I posted this anyway just to discuss about them. Even atm, the Tokens ARE hard to earn. I rly hope in the future it gets easier to get.
  Posted on April 18, 2011 1:34 AM
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Kabuto__Yakushi, The Twisted Harvester of Death

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Bankai_San wrote:

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Agree totally with u, but I posted this anyway just to discuss about them. Even atm, the Tokens ARE hard to earn. I rly hope in the future it gets easier to get.

I hope the same
I mean, the avarage player doesnt get 40 tokens a day
and once the new region is out, one has even less time to get tokens, because one also wants to do the missions....
it is just too hard overall, especially as it is so time consumptive... I mean, I play quite a bit and win in most cases, but it still takes ages
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  Posted on April 18, 2011 1:56 AM
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I agree, there should be easier ways to get tokens or increase the amount that u get.
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  Posted on April 18, 2011 6:23 PM
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Bankai_San, The Respected Veteran of the BETA

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Kabuto__Yakushi wrote:

(...)
I hope the same
I mean, the avarage player doesnt get 40 tokens a day
and once the new region is out, one has even less time to get tokens, because one also wants to do the missions....
it is just too hard overall, especially as it is so time consumptive... I mean, I play quite a bit and win in most cases, but it still takes ages


Totally agreed again. I'll add this to the topic.