Topic: Sleeping Powder and Metsubishi

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  Posted on January 13, 2011 3:41 PM
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Bankai_San, The Respected Veteran of the BETA

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Well, to start, let's comparate:

S.P.: Stuns one enemy's Mental skills for 2 turns. End if a skill is used on them. Cooldown Infinite. 75 Gold cost.

M.: Stuns one enemy's Ranged skills for 2 turns. Cooldown 3. Cost lower than 75.


What the hell? Why is Metsubishi so stronger than Sleeping Powder? I think Metsubishi Op and Sleeping Powder Up. These items should be reworked.

  Posted on January 13, 2011 3:43 PM
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true there should be a rework done but its a game it doesnt have to make sense all the time
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  Posted on January 13, 2011 3:45 PM
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Hikaru, Professor

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Well, the Sleeping powder used to be very OP before, so it was nerfed to what it is now. As for Mestubishi, it used to be VERY UP. Nobody was even using it. Then, it got boosted a few times until it became what it is now. I do agree that the difference is quite big, but you cannot really compare mental and ranged.
  Posted on January 13, 2011 3:46 PM
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If there a lot more mental skills than ranged skills then that would be the reason between the cooldowns and cost.

Many mental skills = great use for S.P.
Few ranged skills = low use for M
  Posted on January 13, 2011 3:48 PM
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allanate, Warbringer

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it completly screws some chars
  Posted on January 13, 2011 4:36 PM
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buying metsubishi early can rly annoy other players with only early characters as it almost cuts the dmg from the starting team in half (destroys Jinsei, making her only useful for a long cooldown healing)

Metsubishi also is a great counter for Tadashi completely shutting him down
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  Posted on January 13, 2011 4:44 PM
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Bankai_San, The Respected Veteran of the BETA

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Tsugaga wrote:

If there a lot more mental skills than ranged skills then that would be the reason between the cooldowns and cost.

Many mental skills = great use for S.P.
Few ranged skills = low use for M


It depends. But anyway, the difference is not that big to make them have this great difference.

In the begin, there ar emore ranged skills. But the fact is that chars with ranged skills are not just used on beggining.
  Posted on January 13, 2011 6:13 PM
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Also there are less mental stuns, and blocks. Moves like intercept from hana and sasori' stun. Range is just easier to deal with.
  Posted on January 13, 2011 9:19 PM
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Dawsoe20, The Old Child

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Damage from mental skills(being primarily affliction) has no damage reduction skills against it in the game so far. I too would like to see a cooldown implemented on Sleeping Powder, even if it's a 4 or 5 turn one.

Yes, there are more range skills in the game, but range skills get mitigated by temporary HP(DD) and damage reduction, while there is not one skill in the game that reduces the damage of "mental abilities".(Basically affliction - Amaya, Akira, Kurai, Yugana, etc)


  Posted on January 14, 2011 12:51 AM
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Mental skill deal less damage and have more effect, they also last longer. Ranged deal more damage. Of course, whe got lot of exeption.

Then, you're gonna use Metsubishi went you whan to reduce damage deal by opposite team. And you're gonna use Sleep powder when you want to switch the battle tide.
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  Posted on January 14, 2011 11:38 PM
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Bankai_San wrote:

Well, to start, let's comparate:

S.P.: Stuns one enemy's Mental skills for 2 turns. End if a skill is used on them. Cooldown Infinite. 75 Gold cost.

M.: Stuns one enemy's Ranged skills for 2 turns. Cooldown 3. Cost lower than 75.


What the hell? Why is Metsubishi so stronger than Sleeping Powder? I think Metsubishi Op and Sleeping Powder Up. These items should be reworked.

i think metshubishi it's better than sleeping powder because no many char use mental skill but ranged skill it's used in every match
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  Posted on January 15, 2011 3:01 AM
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S.P sounds insanely UP compared to M, cost really doesn't count its not like the higher the cost the better. But the Admins better take a look at that :amused
  Posted on January 15, 2011 3:35 AM
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I think that if anything... the powder should hav some sort of cooldown > infinity:cheesy
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  Posted on January 15, 2011 3:39 AM
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Magick wrote:

I think that if anything... the powder should hav some sort of cooldown > infinity:cheesy

^ agreed
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  Posted on January 29, 2011 7:05 PM
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Both are overpowered, Metsubishi renders tadashi useless.