I'm sorry that I'm complaining about this here. Lets see, how do we start this?

Why did you change the title to "The burning" while we already have "The flaming"? I don't see any differene, other than the wording, in the titles. Further on, they have, once again, both to do with fire.

I was happy when there was another addition to the female titles, but changing it to an equivalant to the Honoo family is just too much. I would've been fine with any other title, as long as it was female.

How many female titles are there even?
Sister
Mistress
Rose?
Bloom?
Priestess
...of the Phoenix Queen

The only one I can really identify myself is the Sister title, that's it. I never really complained about the lack of female titles, but changing a rather wanting title "Goddess" to something that already exists is not fair. All you guys could've done was make it get a 100/100 for the title, or even put it next to the "God" title for the forum achievements; but instead you just delete it right out of the register.

I'm really sorry if I offended anyone, but there could've been a better way to change it. Even if it were just "Girl". Once again, I'm sorry, but please put the Goddess title back. I don't really care where as long as it's there.

Oh and guys, why did you complain anyhow? It's not like you'd want to achieve the title "Goddess" anyhow. And just because it's unfair doesn't mean you can take away a title.

So what I'm actually suggesting is putting the Goddess title next to the "God" title, so that one gender does not feel underappreciated. And maybe think of a different title instead of "Burning".

Totally. I agree with you. I also think they should put "Goddess with the "God" Rank. ;)

I just think it would be sexist for a girl to just need 400 tokens and the skill to win once in a while to get the title "goddess" while a guy has to post a bajillion times without spam to get the title "god" not that i really would have complained but....it just doesn't seam right to me...actually the whole character doesn't seem right to me. and you cmplain about the TITLE being copied? pheonix, kamiko, hello? now we have 2 pheonix's, 2 different clans with a fire attack, and there are no other actual elements in use in WoN besides fire :/...ok I'm getting off topic, point is, people complained because it was too easy for girls to 1 up guys

I don't see why there's a massive controversy over this

It's a title that everyone know where it comes from

The words don't really mean much to me as long as they suit

So I agree that it should be re-added, seen as I don't get why people were so bothered by it in the first place (and yes I am fully informened on the topic)

So I gather from you Taiki that your pretty sexist and prefer to think with the idealogy that men should always be above women? Thats what I gather from that.

Since I said it in the first place I do believe that both goddess, and god should be on the same achievement. This way it promotes both sexes. Unless you mods don't want women to be playing this game and overflow the game with too many manly titles.

imo titles like god sister and other gender titles should be changed so you get a different title depending on your gender you put in your profile or if you have no gender you get the default one so it whould be kinda like.

Kamiko - Priest/ Priestess
Hana - Sister/ Brother
Contribution - God/ Goddess
about Jatai idk about a joint title cause Mister whould be kinda wierd for a middle title

anyways i think you get my point although this doesnt solve the problem at hand which is the lack of female titles.

imo titles like god sister and other gender titles should be changed so you get a different title depending on your gender you put in your profile or if you have no gender you get the default one so it whould be kinda like.

Kamiko - Priest/ Priestess
Hana - Sister/ Brother
Contribution - God/ Goddess
about Jatai idk about a joint title cause Mister whould be kinda wierd for a middle title

anyways i think you get my point although this doesnt solve the problem at hand which is the lack of female titles.

lol loled so hard.hana-brother.XD

anyways titles are done so that every1 can get the.every1!also what will happen if i change the gender

if you change gender then the title you had whould change simple as that also last i checked the only male counterpart to Sister was Brother so if you have a better idea by all means say it.

I really don't see why people ever complained about this in the first place.

And I STILL don't see why it's being complained about.

It's a title for crying out loud. Something that only 16% of the people in this community will even look at or judge you by.

And you're all starting to sound like you're suffering from a messiah complex...
Forget God/Goddess, there are much cooler sounding titles out there.

It has said why it was changed on character discussion thread.Anyway they can put it equivalent to the God tittle no problem and replace burning with some female title.

shes cool but also annoying to kill sometimes-_-

Titles with Gender ambiguity:
Everything in Overall (10)
Everything in World (9)
Everything in Battle (14)
Everything in Ladders (10)
Everything in Forum except "God" to some degree (9)
Everything in Starting Characters including Swordsman (10)
Everything in Aoiro (10)
Everything in Niiro save Sister including Demon. (8)
Everything in Kage (10)
Everything in Senboku (10)
Everything in Hebi but Mistress (9)
Everything in Shishi including Tiger (10)
Everything in Kusa (10)
Everything in Honoo but Priestess (9)
Everything in Kozan (10)
Everything in Seishin (10)
Everything in White Guardians (4)
Everything in Bosses (6)


Female Specific:
Sister
Priestess
Mistress

Male Specific:
God
God
God

Also. titles like "Of the XXXX Queen/King are plenty ambiguous. Since they don't specify that you are the animal's King, but are OF it. such as "Priestess OF the Serpent King"

Also. things like Swordsman, Demon, and Tigress are gender neutral until you add a pronoun to describe gender UNLESS you make them female specific. Which would be sexism in the polar opposite direction. You an say "She is a Demon." or "She is a Swordsman." and be proper. You can't properly say "He is a Demoness." or "He is a Swordswoman"
(Swordswoman which is NOT a word at all. It's made-up nonsense.)

Even to the title "God."
Athena is a "Goddess" but is also of the Olympian "Gods"


I don't see the problem. Most of the titles are ambiguous. It's not their problem you don't identify with any of the titles alotted and feel the need to have a title that screams "I'M A GIRL GIVE ME ATTENTION."

Titles with Gender ambiguity:
Everything in Overall (10)
Everything in World (9)
Everything in Battle (14)
Everything in Ladders (10)
Everything in Forum except "God" to some degree (9)
Everything in Starting Characters including Swordsman (10)
Everything in Aoiro (10)
Everything in Niiro save Sister including Demon. (8)
Everything in Kage (10)
Everything in Senboku (10)
Everything in Hebi but Mistress (9)
Everything in Shishi including Tiger (10)
Everything in Kusa (10)
Everything in Honoo but Priestess (9)
Everything in Kozan (10)
Everything in Seishin (10)
Everything in White Guardians (4)
Everything in Bosses (6)


Female Specific:
Sister
Priestess
Mistress

Male Specific:
God
God
God

Also. titles like "Of the XXXX Queen/King are plenty ambiguous. Since they don't specify that you are the animal's King, but are OF it. such as "Priestess OF the Serpent King"

Also. things like Swordsman, Demon, and Tigress are gender neutral until you add a pronoun to describe gender UNLESS you make them female specific. Which would be sexism in the polar opposite direction. You an say "She is a Demon." or "She is a Swordsman." and be proper. You can't properly say "He is a Demoness." or "He is a Swordswoman"
(Swordswoman which is NOT a word at all. It's made-up nonsense.)

Even to the title "God."
Athena is a "Goddess" but is also of the Olympian "Gods"


I don't see the problem. Most of the titles are ambiguous. It's not their problem you don't identify with any of the titles alotted and feel the need to have a title that screams "I'M A GIRL GIVE ME ATTENTION."

Honestly I'm gonna have to say that in general. When most people say god. They think of a man. Almost 99% of americans have that thought process. So yes. God is male specific, and if people are thinking of a female god. They would say a goddess. I think your just one of the other guys thats sore in the pants because women get 1 big title for them thats the same as our god title. The admins/mods made Tori have the goddess title as the first one, because when you first meet Tori the Honoo cult believes she is a goddess and tries to sacrifice her. The fact that you think the admins/mods should change it, just because your all sore in the butt that its easier to get, is just childish. Its put on her in that order because thats how it is in the story. If you don't like it then don't play the Fucking story and don't get her. Otherwise shut up and allow the creaters to make the game the way they want it. There should be no reason that they should change the titles just to make you children happy about it.

I'm female. I was just stating facts about the titles in the game. This argument comes up way too often. So please don't flame me. :)

I just find it silly that people are screaming sexism over one title, while they have three female gender specific titles already.

If anything, it should be guys complaining about sex bias.

I'm female. I was just stating facts about the titles in the game. This argument comes up way too often. So please don't flame me. :)

I just find it silly that people are screaming sexism over one title, while they have three female gender specific titles already.

If anything, it should be guys complaining about sex bias.

Not really. In general, most war based things are more guy specific than female. Now you could argue its still co-gender, but the fact is theres just a lot less females in the military as there are males. So I personaly consider most war titles to be more male specific.