Eh, reading through all this non-sense is such a pain. Anyways, here's my stand:

Religion is merely a way for humans to rationalize the things they either can't explain/justify as natural occurrences in life. I am an agnostic being raised in an extremely harsh catholic family. I'm lucky enough to have one rational parent, otherwise I would probably be shipped off to some private school where we do nothing but pray. Now, to put this as simply as possible, Christianity wants me to believe that an invisible alien magically injected his seed into a human, and when that human-alien hybrid died, he washed away all of our "sins" with his blood, but then was revived and sent back to his home planet, or "Heaven" To live with his father once again. And because of this, if we don't repent and wash the sins from our soul, when we die we will burn in a pit of eternal fire...When we're already dead.. And if we are cleansed of our sins when we die, our dead bodies are abducted, and somehow our dis-embodied soul is supposed to live there in bliss with other "holy" people.

That's just one example of main-stream religion (which is really just a hypothesis from my point of view), having so many variables it can't support it's self.
Not really working for me. Any of you?

Does god exist? In my eyes, it's not really possible. There are many more plausible theories/hypothesize(sp?).

Should 'god' effect our lives as much as it did? Again, to me, no. Individually, sure. But when you bring people together who feel strongly about their ways of thinking, it ends in violence, and hatred. Every time.

I have nothing against religion, if you are religious, happy, and not hurting anyone, have fun. It's really none of my business.

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So you choose to impartial? I guess that works too.

In the matter wether god exists or not - Definetely yes, as it is the most logical answer. One cannot prove that god doesn't exists, one cannot prove that he does exist. So I stand indifferent.

In matters of religion, it is different... I look down on what religion has become in many cases. Most religions are, by now, only a shadow, only a hint, of what they are supposed to be~ Well, good thing I do not need to believe in anything

god doesn't exist.

they just made that up so that you won't do bad things.

Eh, reading through all this non-sense is such a pain. Anyways, here's my stand:

Religion is merely a way for humans to rationalize the things they either can't explain/justify as natural occurrences in life. I am an agnostic being raised in an extremely harsh catholic family. I'm lucky enough to have one rational parent, otherwise I would probably be shipped off to some private school where we do nothing but pray. Now, to put this as simply as possible, Christianity wants me to believe that an invisible alien magically injected his seed into a human, and when that human-alien hybrid died, he washed away all of our "sins" with his blood, but then was revived and sent back to his home planet, or "Heaven" To live with his father once again. And because of this, if we don't repent and wash the sins from our soul, when we die we will burn in a pit of eternal fire...When we're already dead.. And if we are cleansed of our sins when we die, our dead bodies are abducted, and somehow our dis-embodied soul is supposed to live there in bliss with other "holy" people.

That's just one example of main-stream religion (which is really just a hypothesis from my point of view), having so many variables it can't support it's self.
Not really working for me. Any of you?

Does god exist? In my eyes, it's not really possible. There are many more plausible theories/hypothesize(sp?).

Should 'god' effect our lives as much as it did? Again, to me, no. Individually, sure. But when you bring people together who feel strongly about their ways of thinking, it ends in violence, and hatred. Every time.

I have nothing against religion, if you are religious, happy, and not hurting anyone, have fun. It's really none of my business.

I totally agree with you man. Thats exactly my point of view on that matter. If you want to believe in God - do it. Just don't try to force me to believe in it. I can find more logical and reasonable explanation for my existence.

of course he exists you think all this is fake

Added a maybe option, for those undecided of you out there.

Now, I voted no, simply because you said God, as opposed to god. Big difference as anyone religious should know. I'm a polytheist, so I do believe in higher beings, divine right, so on and so forth, but that doesn't mean I believe God exists. My belief has its own reasoning for what you call God, and it's all good from there. My issue with this debate is that by saying Does 'God Exist?' and only giving yes or no as options, you're ignoring the fact that there are countless other religions who believe in one or many gods different from yours.

That said, I'm also with Xelian on this, the only thing worse than people who think their religion is the only valid one in the world are the same people who then try to convert everyone who believes anything else. The same goes for people without religion who refuse to believe religion could possibly have any basis in logical thought, and aggressively attack believers of any religion simply for having a belief in something other than shit happens just because it does, deal with it.

So, does God exist? Not in my opinion, a group of gods do, but none get a capital G.

of course he exists who else created us?

There will never be a direct answer to that question... Nobody can fully prove the theory untill we search every single section of space, which is impossible because we're slugs that is light years away from the answer.

Humanity is better off just assuming it's true so it doesn't wipe itself off the planet.

Let me just clear things up here a bit. I'm not denying the possibility of a god or multiple gods, I'm just saying that I don't believe in them because there is a very small chance of them actually existing in my eyes. And I'm not trying to aggressively attack the people here because they believe in religion. but this is a debate so I have stated my opinion and am defending it. And as for gods being logical, that's just silly. Gods are the very opposite of logical. Logically, magical beings that govern the lives of all the humans in the world from a place that cannot be seen or detected just cannot exist. Those things are spiritual, not logical. If it involves a leap of faith based on zero real evidence I would hardly consider it logical. I happen to be a very logical person, and therefore I can't bring myself to accept the existence of a god. If you are able to, good for you, I guess I respect that a little bit, but if I were to start believing in some sort of god, I don't think I could respect myself.

legendary-lukez:of course he exists who else created us?

well there was something that created us, a change in the space caused an explosion (known as the "big bang") which made the air rapidly increase in tempurature then suddenly dropping causing bacteria levels to evolve and form solid life forms, those later after various forms of evolution evolved to us, homosapiens then humans.
I'm atheist and dont believe in "God" or whoever it maybe, but it is up to you wether you want to believe in it or not.

I wonder though, do people believe in Greek god's even today, or are they the stuff of legends/cartoons?

Alright, my standing point here is, I do believe in the existence of God. Idea is pretty simple; the world didn't come to be "just like that". If you are and Astro Physicist, you know all too well that conditions here on Earth as well as in outer space exists in exactly the right balance.

I didn't study science as a stream; so I can't say the forces out there by name. But try googling. I've seen many NGC documentaries that agree with this fact.

And thus; there has to be someone who created all things in this perfect balance.

I wonder though, do people believe in Greek god's even today, or are they the stuff of legends/cartoons?

Alright, my standing point here is, I do believe in the existence of God. Idea is pretty simple; the world didn't come to be "just like that". If you are and Astro Physicist, you know all too well that conditions here on Earth as well as in outer space exists in exactly the right balance.

I didn't study science as a stream; so I can't say the forces out there by name. But try googling. I've seen many NGC documentaries that agree with this fact.

And thus; there has to be someone who created all things in this perfect balance.

Well at the current moment we dont have the techonology and science to find out how life and space came to exist so we cant actually kno how it was started and there to be, but then who or wat created so-called "God"?

The thing is...
what is god? The explanation is simple. God is everything unexplainable...

Take the greek god Zeus as an example. Why did he throw lightning? Easily because a lightning looks quite mighty and people couldn'T explain themselves what this great power is. So it must be god.

The thing is, god is always marked as an impossible being. God wouldn't be a god if you could logically explain it's existence.
Taking Low's statement... "The world didn't come to be "just like that"..... And thus; there has to be someone who created all things"

If you say that, then I ask "Did this certain someone come to be "just like that"?"
Well, that is where humanity reaches their limits. Everything must have a beginning, but from nothing, nothing comes. So practically the universe must have always existed. But then again, where are the universes origins? Even if we find that out, only more and more questions will endlessy follow.

God is a convenient explanation to end these endless questions.....
"God created it, God has always been there, God cannot be comprehended by human minds."

God is an impossible being. If god would be a possible being... god wouldn'T be GOD. I hope you understand what I mean.

Following that, that also means, if god's existence is proven, god isn't GOD. Because a possible and logical being couldn't be able to do impossible things(miracles are impossibilities for example).

The thing is...
what is god? The explanation is simple. God is everything unexplainable...

Take the greek god Zeus as an example. Why did he throw lightning? Easily because a lightning looks quite mighty and people couldn'T explain themselves what this great power is. So it must be god.

The thing is, god is always marked as an impossible being. God wouldn't be a god if you could logically explain it's existence.
Taking Low's statement... "The world didn't come to be "just like that"..... And thus; there has to be someone who created all things"

If you say that, then I ask "Did this certain someone come to be "just like that"?"
Well, that is where humanity reaches their limits. Everything must have a beginning, but from nothing, nothing comes. So practically the universe must have always existed. But then again, where are the universes origins? Even if we find that out, only more and more questions will endlessy follow.

God is a convenient explanation to end these endless questions.....
"God created it, God has always been there, God cannot be comprehended by human minds."

God is an impossible being. If god would be a possible being... god wouldn'T be GOD. I hope you understand what I mean.

Following that, that also means, if god's existence is proven, god isn't GOD. Because a possible and logical being couldn't be able to do impossible things(miracles are impossibilities for example).

Kabuto, I like how you said that, i couldnt say it any better than that

What makes you think that it's yourself you're talking to rather than a deity?

Psychology.

People who believe in God believe that they can make a difference in the world, through God. Why then not just subconsciously believe that you're talking to God, while you're sitting in a room, "praying"? The concept is similar to that of a mental checklist, having to go over things you need to get done throughout the day.

Sure they may believe the deity is there, but in reality, it's their subconscious.

And man this thread zoomed by while I slept.