Funny thing. In the BETA I was always annoyed as hell when my opponents asked me to surrender. Today, I find myself doing the exact opposite: asking my opponents NOT to surrender when they clearly don't stand a chance!

The reason: Battle Achievements -> Team Survival
Win a total of X quick, mission or ladder battles in which all your characters stay alive without your opponent surrendering.

I don't think that whoever came up with that Achievement realised what a pain it is to find opponents who don't surrender when it's clear they're not going to win - which is usually the situation when you have a chance of winning with all your characters still alive. So far, I've only beaten my opponents with all my chars alive without they surrender twice. In a world where there is no surrender button, I would've already been up to the 10-20 range. Those two times I did get the win, was when I politely asked my opponent not to surrender and explained to him it was for the good of an Achievement. This is quite tricky however, because you don't want to sound cocky and ask it too soon, but some people surrender sooner than you think they would do. And then there are always jerks who ignore you and surrender nonetheless.

I was wondering if anyone else was getting annoyed with people surrendering in these situations, and if anyone else has been asking people not to surrender for the same reasons I have.

Finally a piece of advice for anyone who didn't bother to ask their opponents not to surrender: give it a try! Most people on WoN are actually really friendly and willing to cooperate in these situations. :)


EDIT: here's something to copy/paste if you want to ask your opponent not to surrender.

Could you do me a favour and NOT surrender, please?

That would help me with the Team Survival achievement

I'll do my turns as quickly as possible

Thanks a lot!

Dutch that is exactly what i am asking them too but they all still surrender

Personally, If someone asks me not to surrender, and They aren't killing me fast enough, I just surrender. If im about to die anyways, I just leave the game and go watch spongebob :3

Yeah I thought about that too. I actually don't surrender even if they don't ask me not to so they will get the achievement, as long as the battle will end soon and I'm not being spam stunned while affliction slowly kills me.

but yeah that will be hard to do. I only did it a couple times and did the win in 12 or less turns but that achievement was reset after that glitch

Yeah I thought about that too. I actually don't surrender even if they don't ask me not to so they will get the achievement, as long as the battle will end soon and I'm not being spam stunned while affliction slowly kills me.

see in the idle world everyone would do this :] i also have been doing unless people ask me to surrender

I was going to make the same topic but i got lazy and didnt do it (altough it wouldnt be good as this one is.)

Yes i agree with you .

You're completely right and agreed!

yeah, i agree, ever since i saw this acheivement i will not-and shall not- surrender. I hope other people will do the same thing.

I edited the first post with suggestions of how to ask your opponent not to surrender in a polite manner.

Also:

I was going to make the same topic but i got lazy and didnt do it (altough it wouldnt be good as this one is.)

Yes i agree with you .

DUDE! I meet you in a game. "Nice topic", you said, and then you ask me to not surrender when you think you're winning. Then finally, just when I'm about to beat you with all my chars still (barely) alive, YOU SURRENDER!

EDIT: Alright I'll forgive you. Just read your PM ("Sorry i surrender i had completly forgotten.") after I posted this. =)

I edited the first post with suggestions of how to ask your opponent not to surrender in a polite manner.

Also:

I was going to make the same topic but i got lazy and didnt do it (altough it wouldnt be good as this one is.)

Yes i agree with you .

DUDE! I meet you in a game. "Nice topic", you said, and then you ask me to not surrender when you think you're winning. Then finally, just when I'm about to beat you with all my chars still (barely) alive, YOU SURRENDER!

EDIT: Alright I'll forgive you. Just read your PM ("Sorry i surrender i had completly forgotten.") after I posted this. =)

I have a bad Habit


I lold this person.

EDIT: She surrended.

:)) nice post...but any people don't understand and they surrender...

I DO THAT WITH EVERYONE... Its like it u tell them not to surrender because achievement they do surrender -.-

Its True... i have the same ...

same problem here.

Totally agree with you, but saying "Don't surrender" just urges them to surrender when its like 3vs1 or 3vs2. I came up with a different approach to getting survival wins and it does work.