Topic: Most Useless Character Without a Certain Item

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  Posted on July 27, 2011 12:06 AM
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Chas3_Th3_Dr3am, The Swift Swordsman

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I put Tanto or Kunai with Yuki, but mostly I use Kunai because I save energy.
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  Posted on July 27, 2011 12:27 AM
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Ryu_No_Zonbi, The Insightful Alchemist

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most useless without a specific item is probly dun dun dun Yuurin most ppl use him with Shogi dont know why but otherwise i can list like 10 characters that depend on 1 item.
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  Posted on July 29, 2011 10:04 AM
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imperialgundam, The Demonic Duelist

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I dont think any character is 'useless' without a certain item but work to their full potential with said item but if I had to pick a character that depended too much on an item I'd have to with shoji and WoR
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  Posted on July 29, 2011 11:36 AM
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imperialgundam wrote:

I dont think any character is 'useless' without a certain item but work to their full potential with said item but if I had to pick a character that depended too much on an item I'd have to with shoji and WoR


That's the whole topic though. There's just a problem with the title. IT should be more of which character is the MOST item-dependent for full potential. Everyone agrees it's Shoji considering without WoR, a single stun removes his prep and thus loses another turn to attack.
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  Posted on July 29, 2011 1:59 PM
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spiral, The Relaxed Explorer of the Seishin

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Has gotta be Yuurin without Shogi. Shoji and Yaguna are even more dependent on WoR but they can get the benefit if WoR is held by a team member while they are holding another item. So their case is slightly less severe than Yuurin's who has to be equipped with shogi almost all the time.
  Posted on July 29, 2011 3:27 PM
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Mirroga, The Twisted Alchemist

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spiral wrote:

Has gotta be Yuurin without Shogi. Shoji and Yaguna are even more dependent on WoR but they can get the benefit if WoR is held by a team member while they are holding another item. So their case is slightly less severe than Yuurin's who has to be equipped with shogi almost all the time.


Actually, like Akira, Yuurin is less reliant on items and more reliant on teammates (Tactical Mastery, Blossom) to get the energy they need to use their strongest skills.
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  Posted on August 1, 2011 5:10 PM
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Manjji-Puppet, The Innocent Savior

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I have to fight along with Mirroga; all characters are meant to be their own entity, and items are just, well items. While in real life, a Samurai might be aided by throw shurikens, that doesn't mean that's their only means of attack, and that they should be rendered useless without them.

If that's a little off topic, I'd have to say Arasoi without Shogi. His drain is the only move most people use him for, and 4 random energies can be tough if the other team forces you to make other moves as well.
  Posted on August 1, 2011 6:11 PM
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spiral, The Relaxed Explorer of the Seishin

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Mirroga wrote:

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Actually, like Akira, Yuurin is less reliant on items and more reliant on teammates (Tactical Mastery, Blossom) to get the energy they need to use their strongest skills.

Well first of all Yuurin gains one extra energy while Akira can gain two.
Yuurin's extra energy from blossom usually gets spent for fueling his teammates and his own attack isn't cheap either. It's pretty difficult to pull out game changing nature's blessings without shogi.

Plus Shogi makes it easier to pull out more than one NB in one game. Akira's BD has a C/D of 5 but NB only has a CD of 3 and shogi makes it possible to utilize this low CD to the fullest.
  Posted on August 11, 2011 3:12 AM
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skatefellowship, Samurai of Santi

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I think it would either be Akira / Yuurin without Book of Mentality / Shogi.
  Posted on August 11, 2011 3:27 AM
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Chas3_Th3_Dr3am, The Swift Swordsman

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spiral wrote:

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Well first of all Yuurin gains one extra energy while Akira can gain two.

Sure, but with Akira it depends if the skills if you used is free. If it's not, you're not counting the net.
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  Posted on August 11, 2011 10:13 AM
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well most useless would be Shoji if against stunners and no anti stun stuff in him
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  Posted on August 13, 2011 2:30 AM
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Hikaru without VI as I think that he would not be able to deal high dmg without that.
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  Posted on August 14, 2011 11:34 AM
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Demonkings, The Golden Demon of the Darkness

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For the most useless character...I can't really decide...I have a few characters which I have thoughts

1. Yuudai

Yuudai without village item, kunai or any other weapon, yuudai needs to have a second attack or a free attack otherwise...he is really hard to win with

2. Yuurin

Obviously this guy has high energy attacks so he needs shogi for free heal( which is really costly)

3. Arasoi

Arasoi needs shogi to get free energy steal...thats all

4. Toge

His demon vision with BoM is great! but without it it is really costly
5. Shoji, yugana and so and so

Basically if they are facing stunners, they need to have to have WoR to prevent the stun

6.Akira
BoM cause her stun needs high energy

After seeing this chart...I finally made my decision...it is akira
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  Posted on August 14, 2011 3:57 PM
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I will say that the most useless character is Aoiro Akira
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  Posted on August 15, 2011 10:57 PM
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Chas3_Th3_Dr3am, The Swift Swordsman

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Adam_pun wrote:

I will say that the most useless character is Aoiro Akira

Not useless, but reliant on an item.
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