Topic: Balance Update 3.2

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  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM
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Yuudai, Savior

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Kozan Isshou

True Keeper of the Warbringer
- Protector hit points increased to 40, up from 30.
- Melee and ranged damage limit increased to 20, up from 15.

Protector destruction order changed
Previously the oldest protector is targeted first. With this update, the newest protector is targeted first. On Isshou, this means that Guard of the Warbringer is destroyed before his passive protector True Keeper of the Warbringer.

This change affects all characters in the game. For example, equip Nori with Battle Armor and activate her summon, her summon is the newest protector so that is targeted first.
  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 11:16 AM
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elamento12, The Demonic Child of the Firehawk

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*Facepalm*

Isshou is becoming worse and worse as a stand alone character and his team play was never very good.

I look forward to his future rework.
  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 11:23 AM
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Shadawn, Demon of Death

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First of all, there is a typo on the main page. It says that it's a balance fix version 3.1.

After this, i don't understand why are u making balance proposal and then, when everyone rejects it, make it into the game? Shouldn't you call it balance spotlight or something then?
  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 11:26 AM
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Firestorm, The Ruthless Inferno of the Honoo

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Targeting newest protector makes sense, but I still like good old system with oldest protector going first

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  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 11:26 AM
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Ryu_No_Zonbi, The Cloaked Warrior of the Military

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Shadawn wrote:

First of all, there is a typo on the main page. It says that it's a balance fix version 3.1.

After this, i don't understand why are u making balance proposal and then, when everyone rejects it, make it into the game? Shouldn't you call it balance spotlight or something then?


the proposals are just that proposals if they rejected every balance idea because the public didnt like it nothing would ever get done.

@update love it cant wait to mess around with the new protector system.
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  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 11:32 AM
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LosenGardenia, Prisoner

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I think the change to Isshou is great, but I kinda dislike the Protector destruction order change. (It's going to make me really confused, and ill probaly forget the change to the system and fail a lot...)
  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 11:34 AM
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dragonforce007, The Flaming Wolf

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LosenGardenia wrote:

I think the change to Isshou is great, but I kinda dislike the Protector destruction order change. (It's going to make me really confused, and ill probaly forget the change to the system and fail a lot...)


i probably will forget too, and honestly i think this update coulld be far better
  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 11:37 AM
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DutchShinobi, The Cheerful Panda of Death

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People should remember to update their guides in the Guide Section if the change in protector-order messes up the strategy that they explain. I'm not sure if that's the case for any guides; I'll leave that up to the authors themselves to check.

I can't wait to see if I can manage to abuse Kame's protector with this new system. Hopefully I can finally find some time to play again this weekend. :(
  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 11:45 AM
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Ushi, The Old Grandmaster

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If I attack Isshou with GoW/Ba does his limiter protect his GoW/Ba?
  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 11:47 AM
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VertuHonagan, The Old Samurai of the Ancients

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Yuudai wrote:

Kozan Isshou

True Keeper of the Warbringer
- Protector hit points increased to 40, up from 30.
- Melee and ranged damage limit increased to 20, up from 15.

Protector destruction order changed
Previously the oldest protector is targeted first. With this update, the newest protector is targeted first. On Isshou, this means that Guard of the Warbringer is destroyed before his passive protector True Keeper of the Warbringer.

This change affects all characters in the game. For example, equip Nori with Battle Armor and activate her summon, her summon is the newest protector so that is targeted first.


Aside form Isshou is there really any change? The last time I used protectors it worked like this:

Say you have Nori with Battle armor. On this turn you put up Kames DD and Noris Sumon. You use Noris' summon first and then Kames protector. Kames protector was always taken out first and then Noris summon. This is how it always worked whenever I used these team set ups and put them on in this order. So to me it doesn't feel like this part was a change.
  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 12:30 PM
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Demonkings, The Golden Demon

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Oh no!!! No!!! this is pure rubbish now!

*sigh*the problem of Isshou may be gone but everyone else's has gone up.

Spoiler

Time to take advantage of the kame and GotW kekekekeke


  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 12:31 PM
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jolik, The Diamond Blossom

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it seems ok though it's not big a deal because I barely use any people with protectors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 12:53 PM
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Neji00, The Manipulative Rose of the Kusa

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Well it makes sense to have the newest protecter be the one to take damage first. Also Isshou this update could help him a little bit though he still feels like an odd character to use.
  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM
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xXxMarcelxXx, The Untouchable Mistress of the Phoenix Queen

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I am really frustrated about the protector nerf.

I hope this will be changed.
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  Posted on November 30, 2011 at 1:28 PM
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mjsporting, Prisoner

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the protector isn really a good strategy, because in this game is a lot of skills and items that deals afflicion damage, i just dont agree with nerfing the protectors